Every time. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. Flash and Defog are for the weak. Bibarel. #11. A group of Electric-type Pokémon based on rodents, consisting of Pikachu, Raichu (sometimes omitted), Pichu (sometimes omitted), Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Togedemaru, Morpeko, Pawmi, Pawmo, and Pawmot. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. Whether you want to load up your precious starter with HMs is up to you. In Pokémon Yellow, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are easiest Pokémon to obtain that can both learn Surf and Strength. e: no Pokémon dedicated to be HM slaves) but with Exp hard to come by you have to be mentally prepared to do a bit a grinding. Before discussing Pokémon Kalos Crystal, it’s necessary to mention Pokémon Unova Red: a hack that replaces the entire Pokédex in the first-gen games for that of the Unova region. Its catch rate is 25 (3. Pokémon Brilliant Diamond. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. An HM slave, then, is a term for a pokemon that is not used for battle but knows one or more of these moves, such that the battle performance of your other 5 pokemon is not diminished by "wasting" one of your 4 attack moves with an HM move (which are generally subpar compared to other, similar, options). Do You use HM slaves?. Bibarel, he/she can know all uneccesary HM moves, i havelike 3 bibarels specifically made to be slaves, but with different combinations of HMs. Who are the best HM slaves in each generation? I'm talking two pokemon who together can learn all the HMs in any given game and generally make life a whole lot easier. Most HM moves are easily outclassed in battle (with the possible exceptions of Fly and Surf), they require to you use a Move Deleter to remove them (despite the fact they're, y'know, reusable and thus could be relearned at any time), and they force you to have Pokemon in your party who can use them (hence the development of "HM Slaves". Reviews. Surge, Erika, Koga). One of Gen 1's best Pokemon. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. TM08: Body Slam: 85: 100: 15. Answers. 7. Jan 4, 2012. As such, a pokemon that can carry four HMs is a. The Move Deleter guy lives there. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Flash (Japanese: フラッシュ Flash) is a non-damaging Normal-type move introduced in Generation I. ; Although HM moves cannot be used outside of battle in Orre, Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness has three locations housing puzzles similar to Strength puzzles in other. If you want a pokemon from any region: Bibarel - HM Cut - HM Strength - HM Surf - HM Dive - HM Waterfall - TM/HM Rock Smash. 5 kg (111. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Dec 10, 10 at 5:00pm (PST) ^. . In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. It burrows and lives underground. Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. The pokemon developers do not make changes like these because how conservative the gaming community is and how hung up they are on th 'nostalgia factor'. I've never used HM slaves. Board Topics. . A Hidden Machine, HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a Pokémon a move. Boards. Mew. HM Locations. The reasoning is that I would never deposit my dearest Dragonite & because of breeding I kinda got attached to my slugma :) 1. However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. Accepted Answer. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. 📽️Subscribe here! is the best Pokemon to use as an HM specialist in every Pokemon game (that has HMs)?💸Patreon for exclusive. In Black 2 and White 2, if a Pokémon in the player's party knows the move Rock Smash when they talk to one of the Workers in Clay Tunnel, they can help clear a section of. Release Date. I don't like having a pokemon on my team with a. but they're probably not what you're looking for. 2 HM Slaves For Both Gen 1 & 2 So I've gotten into Pokemon and i wanted to start from the ground up. 1. The only downside to Ludicolo is that it requires a Water Stone for evolution. EDIT: So I just noticed that Mudkip’s HM learn set is different in Gen 6. r/PokemonSwordAndShield. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. See the discussion at PokéCommunity! The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. 19. Board Topics. Just saying the bike has a rotom in it is a massive cop out. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. rattatatouille Takwhomi • 10 yr. Waste of EXP man, fuck that. Share. It can learn all of the HM moves except cut, which if your already halfway. Swampert is a tank-y third gen Pokémon whose special attack “muddy water” is incredibly useful for players, as on top of the 90 damage it deals, it can lower opponents' accuracy. Parasect is an orange, insectoid Pokémon that has been completely overtaken by the parasitic mushroom on its back. While underground, the Pokémon can only be hit by the moves Earthquake, Magnitude or Fissure, with Earthquake and Magnitude dealing twice normal damage. Skoldy • 9 yr. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. But honestly it was an alright move in combat. Mew is the obvious choice. It’s an idea that should have led to an incredibly memorable trainer, but for whatever. ago. I usually use Krabby. Pokémon Blue. If you want a stronger Normal/Flying type maybe go for the Turducken pokemon line (Forget what its called) or for another flying type go with the Cloucat line (Dark/Flying) since it can be speedy and mixed and has a huge variety. Defog. Yogi Bear King of Poke Games. Ask him to remove the HM moves and any other moves you'll fee like deleting. Log in to add games to your lists. All the satisfaction of overcoming obstacles by your own merit, none of the burden on your team's move or Pokemon slots. Image via The Pokemon Company. In Generation 3, there are a total of eight different HMs. (41/151)A striped background indicates a generation in which the move can only be obtained via event or as a special move; Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Charizard; Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution of Charizard; Click on the generation numbers at the top to see transfer-only moves for other generationsBibarel can actually learn all the HMs except fly. Pikachu in the first couple of games could learn dig, surf, flash and I think cut while fly was used on pidgiot. Needless to say, some players had to acquiesce to this. ago. : r/pokemon. No explanation or anything, just the same lead up as bidoof, but suddenly it's God Reply. Mew. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. The exception, of course, being if they're not legitimate encounters—though I've never been in a situation where no Pokémon I own could learn a certain HM. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. I think none of them go above 100. Cut. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. 1. Just saying the bike has a rotom in it is a massive cop out. Click on the generation numbers at the top to see moves from other generations. Strength. imgur. Strength. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. Tips and tricks for fourth generation Pokemon games. Tentacool is easy to find and can use Surf, Dive, and Waterfall (and Cut) torchic373 8 years ago #7. • 11 yr. To add to my previous post: The HM mechanic is outdated. Like for example the only pokemon I can teach cut right now after 1st gym is my starter and that move is crap, I don't want to lock a move slot just for that. 1. Ash always gets the main bird of. Starting from Generation II, items can be held by Pokémon, allowing indirect trading of holdable items. As a final point: The “ ‘Grass/Ground/Psychic trio’ + ‘HM Slave’ + ‘Electric+Ice Birb’ team", is a pretty reliable way to complete RBY. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. Haxorus was introduced in Generation 5 with the ability to break barriers that would otherwise prevent it from growing. Whirlpool. r/pokemon • Day 41 of fusing every Gen 1 pokemon into one by adding the idea from the top comment. The term originates from GameFAQs. Gen 2. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves? Yes, Bibarel. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. In Gen 1, this was the major reason I didn't choose charizard. In spin-off games: Mystery Dungeon series. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. Pokemon Black Version DS. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. i got oddish with cut and flash. Uses 1/4 of the user's maximum HP to create a substitute that takes the opponent's attacks. creativeme (Topic Creator) 12 years ago #3. What pokemon are the best hm slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. Red Blue: Incredibly slow and dopey. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get. A ROCK-type attack that hits the target with an avalanche of rocks and boulders. #5. False swipe - lowers pokemon 1 hp does kill it. ago. In their most recent iteration, most HM moves have a Base Power of at least 80 with the only exceptions being Cut, Rock Smash, and Whirlpool. 130. KillerFugu • 4 yr. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. Wishcash was a solid HM slave when it was introduced in Gen III, and that use carries over here. The HM slave. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. . I want to have a perfectly trained and crafted team of 6 pokemon with 4 perfect moves. Pokémon Y Friend Code: 4441-9508-9799. Questions. In Generations 2-3, Dig has 60 base power. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. I'm looking for a Pokemon that will preferably learn Cut and Flash in Red/Blue, but I'm not having any luck finding one. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Covers pretty much everything you need except Surf and Waterfall. Corooster is good for early game but it kind of underwhelms mid to late game with its subpar stats. Young. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very few advantages that it can wreck with a HM) dragonite (1 of the 2 pokemon that learn every HM) arceus (a third pokemon that learns all HM's In the 4th gen ) hydrigon. One of the worst things about earlier Pokémon games were the Hidden Machines mechanic, where certain moves like Cut or Surf were needed to progress through the game, but were gated by some sort of obstacle. . As Dresden said, that's where you get HM03. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. I got Pokemon blue for. It has reached cult status on some message boards. 5 posts, 9/15 1:10PM. HM artwork for Pokémon Red and Green. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and. Good HM Slave. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Because Blaine is the OG Pokémon quiz master. In Gen 1 you have to go to the Pokemon menu, find your cut Hm slave and use it from there. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. The Japanese name of Cut, いあいぎり Iai Cut, refers to iaido, a. Hmm cool. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. Riding Pokémon is somewhat a theme in Alola so I wouldn't be surprised if HM moves returned in gen 8. In Generations 2-7, Krabby has a base Friendship value of 70. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Pokémon Gold & Silver added two new HMs to the five from Generation 1 - both used in water. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. Move filters. ago. Typhlosion can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and (?)Headbutt (?)Topic: Best Gen 5 HM Slaves? (Read 264 times) JCBellsprout. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. tropius is also a good hm slave. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. Nicknamed "Slavelabor" after the Pokemon Abridged Series. ago. . Pokémon Blue. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. r/pokemon • Gen 1 Dark Types. 8. If your main water type pokemon is a physical attacker, give it Waterfall and let bibarel learn Surf. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. It takes 1-5 levels to level it up to a Crawdaunt. 4. 2 Answers. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. Swanna - HM Surf - Hm Dive - HM Fly. Mt. The main reasons being because. The rotom bike felt boring by comparison as it doesn't really involve any pokemon interaction. PP. You either have a nickname planned from the moment you see it or spend two hours ruminating because you don’t wanna ruin such an amazing Pokémon with such a shitty name. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. HM Slaves are a common practice among the fans of Pokémon; after all, you need someone to use all of those Hidden Machines. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. TM/HM # Attack Name Type Att. 1 Pidove. HM01 has always been Cut. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. 10. a Arty2, owner of Legendary Pokémon and Serebii, owner of Serebii. In anything post gen III they also are separated in terms of physical vs special attack, so it's not a terrible idea to have them on a well-balanced water Pokemon as you now have two great water offensive moves that can be used accordingly - surf for opponents with lower sp def and waterfall for lower. 01. This is the place for most…There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Like in Pokémon Red & Blue, Krabby can learn Cut, Strength, and Surf. The same go-to HM slave as Gen 4. Lists of TM, HM, and TR locations. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. Gen IV’s Empoleon is one of the greatest HM slaves of all time, for the Sinnoh games and throughout all the generations. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. In Generation III and IV, a Pokémon knowing an HM move cannot be transferred to the next generation unless the HM move is removed (e. Accuracy. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Pidove along with its evolutions are easy to find within the region and can be caught all throughout a trainer's Unova adventure. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. In Generations 2-7, Oddish has a base Friendship value of 70. I personally think this is wrong, we should instead use HM indentured servants, and after a certain amount of time free them. it out in Gen 1. Cheats. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. 5 3. TM06: Toxic--85: 10--A technique that badly poisons the target. Of course there's always escape ropes as an. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. Joined May 31, 2013. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. com Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. Ridiculously broken Pokémon obtained much earlier than a Pokémon of its strength should. Check a move's detail page for stats in the most. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Sleep Status makes it easier to catch pokemon. Name. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. Skarmory: Rock Smash, Fly, Defog, Cut Swampert: Waterfall, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb Azumarill: Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, Surf135 votes, 75 comments. There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. She's currently level 49 cause when my current. Fly. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. . I tend to give HM moves that aren't so useful to Pokemon I don't use often, but I still don't treat them like slaves. Move 1: Strength Move 2: Rock Smash Move 3: Fly Move 4: Defog Item: Silk Scarf Ability: Pressure Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Name: Kabutops Move 1: Waterfall Move 2: Surf Move 3: Rock Climb Move 4: Cut Item: Mystic Water Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Anybody else know any 2. Best. Hidden Machines (HMs) in FireRed/LeafGreen. Two, same reason as the HM's in Hoenn, I try to avoid repeating types on the same team. Hey all, I haven't seen a discussion talking about what pokemon are the best HM slaves for Gen 5. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. Zeimma • 9 yr. I dun use HM slaves because Pokemon are my friends. That’s not to say he’s bad; he’s just the least memorable for me. 2 Answers. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. Notify me about new: Guides. On the second turn, Dig deals damage. I usually don't have an HM slave. Multi-target moves Attacks like Surf or Rock Slide that hit multiple Pokémon. XP. Mt. Jump to content. 2 Answers. ago. A Corphish can actually be caught quite early in the Hoenn region. TM # Move. Want to go catch that Deino in ORAS? I hope you have Waterfall, Surf and Fly. Charmeleon - Generation 1 learnset. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. Skarmory is a Steel/Flying-type Pokémon introduced in Generation 2. I've currently got my HMs spread over a few semi useless 'mons that I had available, but I'm getting to the point now where I want to level up my Larvitar and Extremespeed Dratini to get them E4 ready, which with my 3 far-too-low-level HM. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. :bidoof: Roserade - Cut. anyone still playing 2023? 22 posts, 11/21 6:30AM. . In Generation 1, Oddish has a base Special stat of 75. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. And even the newest remakes of the gen I games, Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, didn’t bring back HMs. Acc. MetalKingBoo ( Expert ) - 13 years ago - report. ago. Best answer. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. However, I knew that I didn't want to ruin one of my real pokemon with Flash, so I stubbornly bumped my way through Rock tunnel in the dark, every single playthrough (of which, there were many). Notify me about new: Guides. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. Johto Legends, a Gen 2 Rom hack, removed HM's and has a dedicated Surf system where Lapras will give you a ride on the field by simply interacting with the water. . Edit; looking just now at his gen 7 movepool. I got Pokemon blue for GBC and i wanted to know the lowest number of hm slaves i could have without mew so i could make room for my mains. Questions. A good slave is Spinarak as it can learn cut and flash, thats usually the pokemon I use early, fly I usually use my bird party member which is nearly always HootHoot or Noctowl. It learns Cut and Strength as well, but has Surf. Boulder Badge. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Aromatherapy - cures status effects from the whole team. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. And it still hits hard as Waterfall, Surf & Dive are STAB. When I actually played the original Gen 1's for the first time (this was after I'd played Leaf Green), you can't even imagine the suffering I went through when I got to Fucshia only to discover to my horror that the Move Deleter didn't exist in Gen 1. If you're not Surf or Fly (and sometimes Strength and Waterfall), you're going on an HM Slave. lolbidooflol. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. I need a HM slave for firered but i dont know which ones can learn 4 hm moves. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. None of the HMs are required to complete the main storyline except Cut, which is used on a single tree. #3. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. This is the place for most…A Gym Badge (Japanese: ジムバッジ Gym Badge), commonly referred to as simply a badge (Japanese: バッジ badge), is an item that serves as proof of a Pokémon Trainer's victory in a battle against a Gym Leader at a Pokémon Gym. Smogon. Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength. It was HM05 from Generations I to III and TM70 from Generations IV to VI, as well as in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl . The fungus growing on its back has a large red. For Nintendo 3DS on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rather than a Gen 1 remake for the pokemon 20th anniversary. Friend Code: 0447-6401-4083 Psychic type (forgot what. Add a Comment. Rising Badge. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. Generation VII • Generation VIII ( SwSh • BDSP) • Generation IX. Reviews. Image via The Pokemon Company. Looking for a good easy to get pokemon that i can put the main HM's on - Cut/Strength/Rock Smash/Surf ? Even one that can learn false swipe might be…Sharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. 5. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. Papatheodorou a. Tropius: Cut, Fly, Rock Smash, Flash Bibarel: Rock Climb, Whirlpool, Strength, Surf/Waterfall. for a series that tries so f***ing hard to sell you the idea of "pokemon are you friend and both of you help eachother" the removal of this is nonsensical from relying on your ""friends" you go to abusing mindless slaves to clear obstacles/just. Additionally, the moves contained within.